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Monday, April 16, 2012

Cloth diaper update!



The honest truth is, I enjoy cloth diapering.

Here are two solid reasons (pun intended):

1. I thought I would kind of loathe them BUT the bottom line savings was so big that I kind of felt like we had to do it. Turns out IT IS SO EASY and NO BIG DEAL AT ALL. A pleasant surprise.

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2. They really have saved us a ton of money. There were some weeks that money was reaaaaaaaal tight. And I would pull our cloth diapers out of the dryer and think to myself, "thank God we don't have to buy diapers. Thank God we have these."

So I have recently been asked a few questions about the whole cloth diapering thing and so I wanted to explain how we do it:

How many diapers do you really need?
I'd get 20. You will use that many in about 2.5 days. You'll have like 2 left over while you are washing & drying the rest of the bunch. I know what you are thinking...why not buy more and do washing less? Because you really shouldn't let those bad boys sit too long before you clean them. Stains can set and smells get intense up in there.

Also - Register for them! When someone who wants to buy you something useful asks, "Hey what do you really need?" Tell them cloth diapers. My mother-in-law got us 12 of ours!

Best Brands?
We bought all BumGenius 4.0 One Size diapers with the snap closures.

I like things to be simple. I'm not the type that wants to try a bunch out and buy a bunch of different sizes and blah blah. Just tell me what the best friggen' ones are and I'll get those. Everyone I talked to said BumGenius 4.0. I can tell you they were right.  I was given a few other brands and the only ones that came close were fuzzibunz, but they still lost big time because you had to buy all different sizes as your babe grows. For some reason this overwhelms me, so no thanks. Keep it simple.

So these diapers come with the actual diaper and then two  inserts. One biggie and one shorter one that they call an infant insert. The diaper has a pocket sewn into it that you stuff the inserts into. We stuff the biggie one in the dipe for daytime wear and the biggie and little one (double-stuffed) for nap-time wear. We put a Target diaper on him at night. We have tried it and he can sleep through the night in a double-stuffed cloth dipe - but we both just agreed to do a disposable because it gave us peace of mind while sleep training.

I specifically mention Target diapers because they are the best disposables out there. We used disposables for the first 3 months of Westley's life. Why? Because for awhile he was too small for our cloth dipes and then for awhile I was still too nervous because I had never done cloth diapering before. Turns out its a cake walk but I had to find out for myself and ease into it. So anyway Target diapers are cheap cheap cheap and also so so good. Just trust me on this one. Or buy every brand out there and then end up giving them away and buying the cheapie goodies like we did.

Oh and get the snap closures for sheez. Why? Because babies can't take them off. And that is all I need to say about that.

Cleaning?
I was straight up grossed out at the thought of putting a used dipe in my washing machine. And I'm here to tell you it's no big deal. Truly. Why? I don't know why. It just isn't. It's your baby's poop and pee. It's just not as gross as your poop and pee or other babies poop and pee. When you have the baby you'll know what I'm sayin'.

So here is how cleaning happens:

If you want to do things the way we do things you'll need:

- A plastic trash can. Get one with a pedal that opens the lid for you when you step on it.

- A large wet bag. We got this one. It's awesome and cheap.

- A small wet bag for your diaper bag if you decide to use cloth on the go. We got ours as a gift. It was from an etsy shop. I am not going to recommend it because you couldn't dry the thing. We dried it and the rubber inner part got all wonk and we can't use it anymore so just make sure you read the fine print and get one you can throw in the dryer because one day you'll forget and throw it in the dryer and it will be sad.

- A diaper sprayer. We got this one. It is one of the more expensive ones but I didn't want to be spraying shat off a diaper and have it break on me so I decided to go for it. It works great.

- A washer and dryer. I don't have  high efficiency ones so I can't so much about how that works with cloth diapers. We just the standard cheapest ones they have at Home Depot pair. But they serve us well.

Okay now that you've heard about the supplies here is the process:



1st step: From butt to pail:

For a pee dipe:
You just take the inserts out of the pocket and throw them in the wet bag that is inside of the plastic trash can (which you can call a diaper pail). I have tried just throwing the whole dipe in there without removing the inserts and they don't dry evenly in the dryer, so we take them out.


For a poop dipe:
Depends on the poop my friend.

A crazy mush poop calls for diaper spraying. With the liner still in the diaper put it as far down in the bowl as you can and angle the sprayer down and away and spraaaaaaaaay the poop off. We literally only have used the sprayer for the month or two when Westley was starting food and his poops were becoming more solid. It was crazy, but it didn't last long.


A solid poop you can just roll right off into your toilet bowl. No biggie. That is how all of Westley's poops are now-a-days.

Then you remove the insert(s) and throw everything in your wet bag that is in the diaper pail.

And then for goodness sakes wash your hands.

2nd step: From pail to butt:

So all your dipes are dirty in the diaper pail and it's time to wash em'.

1. Take the wet bag out of the diaper pail.

2. Haul it to your laundry room.

3. Dump the entire contents in the washer and then throw the wet bag on top.

4. Do a cold rinse and spin with no soap.

5. When the rinse is done do a regular wash with hot water and one scoop of Charlie's Soap. Once a month I throw a couple capfuls of bleach in there too.

6. Transfer to dryer. We dry on regular heat.

7. Transfer to laundry basket.

8. Stuff those puppies.

9. Return clean dipes to basket near changing table and wet bag to diaper pail.

10. Put on baby butt.


What about wipes and rash creams?

Wipes: We use unscented gentle wipes. We just wipe his bum and throw them in a little trash can by his changing table. We were thinking of doing cloth wipes but it just never caught on in our house.

Rash Cream: If you are using cloth dipes chances are you won't need rash cream. Westley has gotten three diaper rashes ever in 11 months and they were directly related to getting teeth. They lasted for the couple days he got the teeth and then went away. So during that time we just used disposables because diaper rash cream in pretty much a no no with cloth diapers. And like I said, you basically don't need it anyway because the cloth is so gentle and breaths better than disposables.


Diaper Liners: We registered for and received these. They are supposed to be helpful when your baby poops because you can just pick up the liner, throw it in the toilet and flush. It is just as easy to turn the diaper over and roll the poop into the toilet so for us they were kind of a waste.



But will my baby's butt look really big and poofy in cloth?

Yes. It's adorable.



Exceptions:

So here is when we don't use cloth diapers.

- Long outings away from the house. Like vacations or zoo trips.
- Overnight (I already mentioned this)

Also:

My Dad has this saying that he throws out whenever we are moving someone and carrying large awkward furniture up or down stairs. "Don't try and be a hero!" What he means is, take a break when you need to and don't feel bad about it. Same goes for cloth. Yeah, I think it's a piece of cake, but you may hate it, and who cares. You aren't bad for that. You aren't lesser. You aren't losing. You are awesome and different than me and hooray for whatever you think is a piece of cake that I am like "Good God I hate doing this let me have a stress cry and call it quits." You know what I mean?



So did I cover all the bases? If you have more questions let me know and I will either answer them in the comments or do a follow up post.

And thanks for asking! It's fun in some weird way to share how we handle poop around here. Don't worry I will make this blog private before Westley is old enough to be completely embarrassed by this post.

And that is all.


**Update on April 18th - I forgot to mention that for as long as you exclusively breastfeed you can just throw the whole poopy diaper into the washer, no spraying necessary. But it is only if you are only breastfeeding your baby. Breastmilk poop is water soluble and completely breaks down and washes away. Magical.

36 comments:

  1. Well done. Very well done. Sending to some friends who are just starting out!

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  2. Great overview! I use SmartiPants diapers and so far they've been awesome! I don't remove the liners though before throwing them in the wash, they come apart in the wash pretty easily which is nice! Also, we use cloth wipes from time to time (mostly as burp cloths) but if the little one has a red bum, i put on the ointment and then put a cloth wipe in there as a barrier so it doesn't get on the diaper. Cloth is the shiz though, I'm so glad I don't have to buy diapers on the regular!

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  3. I've never heard of SmartiPants! Glad they are awesome for you!! We use the cloth wipes I made for cleaning messy faces after eating instead of bum use! haha. I tried the ointment with the cloth wipe inbetween and we had leaks, I think because it wicked the moisture away so well that it didn't absorb. Ah well, at least there has only been three rashes so it hasn't been so bad. :)

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  4. They really aren't that bad...especially if you relax and let yourself do disposable if you're traveling and such. Also to note for later, cloth diapered babies usually potty train sooner - whoot!!

    Great post! Thanks for encouraging people to do it.

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  5. Cloth diapers because that's all you could find when the plane crashed, right? ;)

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  6. soooo, i dont do cloth dipes but if i did, i'd be referencing this shiz up in hurr like mad. and i like your dad's quote 'don't try to be a hero!' so true, so true. and i like the puns.

    see? i really read it, even though it doesn't apply. that's cause i like you and westley's poofy cloth butt.

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  7. i'm laughing. i don't even have kids, and i'm laughing.

    thank you for this. because one day, when i do have kids, i want to do this.

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  8. New follower :) We use Bum Genius 4.0's, too, and basically do everything the same as you - except we don't put the outer part in the dryer...I thought that was a "no-no" but if it doesn't hurt them, I'd like to do it! ;)

    Have you ever had any issues with leaking? Lately, we have been having some leaking on the inside area of the legs. Not out the leg holes...it is like the inserts inside are not covering those areas for some reason and so it just leaks through. Any thoughts/tips?

    Great post!

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    1. Beth Ann take one of your diapers (clean) and turn it over so the outside of the diaoer is facing up. Then sprinkle some water on if, it should bead. It may, however, start by beading and then absorb into the outer PUL layer. If this is the case your cover is losing its waterproof coating.

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  9. Beth Ann - I tested them in the dryer when I got them and it went fine, so I've been doing it ever since. :)

    We only had leak problems when Westley was a newborn and they were just too big on him. How old is you baby? I wonder if maybe crawling or walking has slimmed your little one down so they aren't fitting the same? Or maybe they are drinking more and peeing more and so only one insert for day use isn't enough?

    I would try double stuffing and see what happens.

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  10. I use Bum Genius 4.0 too!! I've had some leaks too- exactly the same place. In between his legs- I think it's because the insert moves and so when the diaper wicks it away there isn't that super absorbent liner there to catch it? I've also noticed this more at night and more with the snaps than the Velcro. I love the Velcro, but my babe hasn't started trying to remove it so maybe that will change. I got 2 at my shower and bought 6 more with a sale at cottonbabies- buy 2 get 1 free!! I've been working with 8 and it's been tight, but I love it (I'm waiting for another sale to get more!). So quick question: Is the hot water necessary? I usually wash with warm water and then use an extra rinse. I'm wondering if hot is better. Also- huge tip. Make sure your husband is on the same page with washing or keep him out of the laundry room!! Mine washed without an extra rinse and did a load of wash immediately after- all the clothes ended up smelling like pee!! Hmm maybe the wash before is a good trick. That's the only time I've had a problem though...

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    1. So I just read this post today and loved it! Had to check out Cotton Babies too. I saw that they have the BumGenius 4.0 with a buy 5, get one free deal. Then if you spend $40 from 5/18-5/20 they will give you a free diaper, so that makes them close to your deal right? So there's your sale if you want more - go grab some! :) (My cart total was $86.90 for 7 diapers, which seemed pretty good to me - is that good?)

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  11. Thanks for this, Candis. I really want to try but I'm afraid of spending money on the supplies and then it being too hard and letting it all go to waste.

    When you say 20 diapers, do you mean 20 covers and 20 inserts? And when you change Westley's diaper, does the cover get changed every time? Or only if it's wet/dirty?

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  12. Kristin - First of all you are amazing for doing this with 8 dipes. That means you are probably washing everyday and that makes you a super mama. I hope a sale comes soon so you can get some more!! :)

    I'm not sure if the hot is absolutley necessary, I guess I just figured it killed more bacteria and so that is what we've done. I used to rinse before washing and then a friend of mine who also uses cloth suggested a cold rinse before to sort of break up any poop skids and pee. So all that is to say I've done before and after and prefer rinsing before.

    Also - Drew Jones once threw a dryer sheet in the dryer with the dipes. Huge no no. But he was just used to automatically doing that and anyway I was worried that I would have to strip all the inserts. Thankfully, it didn't seem to do anything at all - probably because it was just that one time. Anyway - we don't use dryer sheets at all on anything anymore and we don't miss it at all!

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  13. Erin - Each BumGenius diaper you buy comes with 1 large insert and 1 small insert. So this means that 20 diapers would have 40 liners included. 20 small and 20 large.

    When I change Westley's diaper the diaper gets changed every time too. Because the liners sit on the inside of the pocket and not on the outside. So pee always gets on the diaper portion...does this make sense? I am kind of a germ-a-phob so even if I bought the ones where the insert laid on the outside right up against his skin I would probably change the entire thing. Also I would warn against getting the diapers that don't have the fleece pocket that wicks moisture away and to the liner in the pocket. We received two Grovia diapers as a gift and they were the type without a pocket and so the wet liner just sat against his skin. I figured that would be super uncomfortable and not good at all for naptime and sleeping.

    My best advice to you would be to borrow a couple from someone you know who does it. Or just wait for the cotton babies buy one get one. Or search for coupon codes online. I would say to just try it with a couple and see what you think. You'll probably know right away if it is something you want to do or not. :)

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  14. I've always wanted to do cloth diapers! I actually read this even though I'm not even pregnant yet, ha.. it was interesting! And do you have a long haired dachshund? Meee too :) Love them.

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  15. We do have a long haired dachshund! Scout Jones keeps thing lively over here! :)

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  16. ! You do not know how helpful this is. The hubs and I decided to try cloth diapering to save money (especially since we just started renting a house where we don't have to PAY for the laundry) and I tried to research all about cloth diapers but got so overwhelmed with all the different choices. I ended up registering for 20 bumgenius snap diapers and just stumbled on this post. Thank you so much for this info! I feel much, much more confident now.

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  17. Hooray for 20 bumgenius snaps! Good good call my friend! I am so glad you feel more confident now! You can always email me with any questions if they come up!

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  18. Love it! :) We use 4.0 for nighttime because you can double (or triple) stuff them - you will be surprised how much more a toddler can pee! However, I accidentally bought a couple with velcro instead of snaps - ugh! - why do they even make them with velcro, it wears out after like a year & once your kiddo realizes they can be free......who wouldn't rip them off...every. nap. time.

    Your little guy is too cute! ...and I agree, poofy butts are SO cute!

    Cheers!

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  19. Love Love Love our BumG's!!! The big cloth booties are the best!

    ***I love that you wrote this post- I was feeling a bit guilty that we've been using disposables for night time- that and my husband was giving me a hard time about it. I hear "Whats the point?" every time I bring home a box of disposables. So I sent him a link to the post - Support in numbers I guess :)

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  20. I completely agree about cloth diapers. It is way easier than I could have ever imagined. I have a 4 month old and we even use them on overnights, etc. I took a 6 day trip to visit family and just washed a couple of days in between. I did use disposable on the plane for convenience, but otherwise, cloth worked.

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  21. I forgot to add that I use Grovia snaps and I love them. You just snap the liners in and out. If it is just a pee diaper, you don't have to change the cover. I also have a drying rack that I always dry the covers on. Sometimes, I put the liners outside in the sun to bleach the poop stains out. The inserts typically do have to go in the dryer even after hanging outside because they take a while to dry. Thank you for the post. It is always nice to hear other ideas and to learn tips from everyone.

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  22. I LOVE this post! Thanks so much for getting this all out there - there are so many questions when you first start thinking about cloth diapering, and you answered SO many of them!

    Just a couple of remaining questions: What did you do to strip the diapers ahead of time? Also, I have read that there are some rash creams that are safe for cloth diapers, do you trust this? Last, do you ever sun your diapers or is this really not necessary?

    Thanks again, Candis!

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  23. The diaper cream that is safe for cloth is made by California Baby. I don't remember what it's called, but it has lavender in in, and it's available at Target, but can be pretty pricey. Jack gets diaper rash in his cloth dipes, but he has some dietary issues, so I'm pretty sure it's related to that. I just buy some heavy duty cream and put him in disposables until it clears up. Thanks for the informative post, Candis! Did you hear that we are gearing up for baby Curtis #2? I can't wait to get out my tiny g diapers again. :)

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  24. I stubbled on your blog from "E Tells Tales" and seriously sat here for what seemed like HOURS reading. I love your blog and will now add to my "favorites". Consider me a new fan :) While I'm not a mommy (YET!)- I've been doing a lot of research, reading and "body preparation (aka working out)" for pregnancy. We hope to be pregnant by early next year. Clearly, I'm one of those OCD "future moms" who likes to feel prepared (even though that's never possible with kids). Thank you for teaching me A LOT through your blog. I really appreciate your posts and openess to the public.

    Back to the point- I loved this post about cloth diapering. I have to admit- I was ANTI cloth diapering. I was shamefully "judgy" of a couple in our church who did it. I just couldn't understand the sanitary portion of it. But this post really has opened my eyes. I even said to my husband-- "I read this mommy blog who posted about cloth diapering". I might have scared him just with those words! haha. Thank you for the step by step process. I'm definitely more open to this concept now.

    Much love,
    Carissa

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  25. I am filing away this post for when I have a baby. I've always wanted to do cloth diapers, and this is so helpful!

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  26. Cait! Sorry I am just getting back with you!

    What did you do to strip the diapers ahead of time?

    I didn't strip my diapers ahead of time. Was I supposed to do this? I haven't had any trouble with them though. I just washed them like 6 times after I purchased them to make them more absorbing.

    Also, I have read that there are some rash creams that are safe for cloth diapers, do you trust this?

    If you find a cream that claims to be good with cloth then I would just make sure to call the manufacturer of the diapers you have and ask them just to be extra sure you don't ruin them. We haven't used any rash cream with our cloth diapers.


    Last, do you ever sun your diapers or is this really not necessary?

    I have never sun dried our dipes, but it seems pretty cool. I just don't have a laundry line. It seems like it might take more time too, but everything I have heard about it is good as far as getting stubborn stains out!! So maybe if you have a bad stain then just lay that one out in the sun!

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  27. Great post! Its a nice breakdown for someone curious about cloth. Glad its working out so well for you.

    Drying the covers on a low heat every once in a while is good to help seal the PUL (the material that makes it waterproof). However, repeated drying can actually cause this to break down faster, damaging the diaper. In some brands, it might actually void the warranty to dry the covers in a dryer regularly. It is best to hang these to dry. I use a few of the BumGenius 4.0s myself and the covers dry VERY fast! Also, drying diapers and inserts in the sun, even every once in a while, is fantastic for killing bacteria and bleaching out stains. A little lemon juice can help with stubborn breastmilk poop stains. I don't have a line either, but I lay them out flat in a sunny spot and it works like magic!

    There are several cloth diaper safe creams out there. CJs BUTTer and Grandma El's are popular and can be purchased from any online diaper retailer. Using a non-cloth safe cream can cause buildup and affect absorbency. If you need to use something not cloth safe, you can use diaper liners to protect the diaper as needed.

    Good luck!

    Cara
    Sweet Baby Mae - Cloth Diaper Consultants

    www.sweetbabymae.com
    www.sweetbabymae.com/blog

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    1. Thank you for the great comment! We are now hanging our covers to dry!

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  28. I want to do cloth diapers for our next baby. I thought about doing a diaper cover with regular cloth diaper covers which are inexpensive. I just recently purchased one for my son from a friend who makes them and i put one on my toddler and he looked so cute but i noticed it leaked a little. Is that because i dont have enough inserts? I just thought diaper covers would be better since the inside is like plastic type and can easily be wiped down.

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    1. To be honest I don't have any experience with any other brands but bumgenius and the other two I mentioned. I have heard that some brands are quite leaky though. If I were you I would put another liner in and see what happens. Maybe your friend who makes the covers you are using would have an idea too. I cannot reccomend bumgenius enough though. If they are too pricey for you new try doing a Craigslist search for them used!

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  29. Candis! I'm having a baby in one month and have been using this post as a guide to cloth diaper. I bought 12 gently used bumGenius diapers with snaps, a small wet bag, and extra disposable liners off craiglist (for $120!) and am asking for the rest of what I need for Christmas gifts. I hear so much differing advice, so can I please ask you:

    Do you dry the wet bag in the dryer or on the line? It seems like in the dryer. If so, how has it held up over a year and a half?

    Do you ever line dry the diapers or inserts? If not, how have they held up?

    Thanks, Candis! :)

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    1. ERIN YOU ARE HAVING A BABY IN ONE MONTH?! AHHHHHHHHHH! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! I have been so out of the blogging loop and have MISSED THIS WONDERFUL NEWS SOMEHOW!

      I am so so happy for you! And I feel so honored that you are using my post as a guide for your cloth diapering!

      First off - score on the craigslist dipes!

      Second - What kind of dry bag do you have? You said it was a small dry bag. They one we have is large enough to fit in a trashcan. The link is up there where you can get directly to it. If it is similar or the same as the one in the link - I throw mine in the dryer and it holds up AWESOME. Still looks brand new. BUT we had a smaller wet bag that was an etsy purchase that could not go in the dryer (but it did) and it was ruined and melted and terribly sad.

      Third - We USED to throw the diapers in the dryers with the inserts but just about a month ago I got a comment up there where someone warned me I shouldn't do that. We had been doing it for over a year with no problem, but the commenter said over time you can run into problems. So I figured we should be on the safe side and start hanging the diapers to dry instead. They dry on the line as fast as it takes for the dryer to dry the inserts so it is no biggie. I just have one of those pop up metal drying rack things that I hang them on. All of my diapers and liners are holding up so so well They don't have any stains and look new.

      If you have any other questions let me know!!!

      And congrats again!!

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    2. **we used the smaller dry bag for on the go diapering (threw it in the diaper bag) And the big one for home.

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    3. Okay thanks! The bag we were given is a small one for the diaper bag. I'll plan to line dry it. I'm planning to buy the big bag you recommended.

      I might be back with more questions! I sure appreciate your help. :)

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